I had many conversations with Michael, and they were not related to or had anything to do with.... Talk wasn't just on the Infrastructure Bank. For the one conversation here, all I recall is speaking with Michael Sabia, and Mark Wiseman being on there. It was a phone line. I didn't see who was in the room. As far as I was concerned, it was a request from Michael Sabia to get input. That's how I saw it and—
On May 18th, 2023. See this statement in context.