That's great, you've answered my question, Mr. Barton, but I have a follow-up question.
We understand that McKinsey employees were the secretariat for the Advisory Council on Economic Growth set up by the Trudeau government. That is what Mr. Sabia told us at a previous meeting. It has also been confirmed to us by former partners of McKinsey. I would like to know whether these McKinsey staff were a permanent part of the council and whether they were also doing it on a volunteer basis.