The decision around putting Mr. Sabia on as one of the members of the advisory council was consistent with our broader view. We wanted to seek people with different levels of expertise. We sought people with climate expertise, people with significant international business expertise, indigenous expertise....
Mr. Sabia brought with him an understanding of infrastructure investment. He brought with him an understanding of the federal government. He brought with him an understanding of a large Canadian corporation. He had multiple areas of expertise that I sought out as being particularly helpful in the advisory council and subsequently, of course—