The British Columbia Maritime Employers Association represents our employer groups. They're separate from the port authorities in B.C.
We have four port authorities in B.C. There should be only three, to be honest with you. My relationship with the biggest one has been really bad over the last 10 years because of their actions towards our union. With the one up north, we a have pretty cordial relationship; we get along quite well. With one of the port authorities on Vancouver Island, we get along quite well. Honestly, why there are two port authorities on Vancouver Island, I couldn't tell you.