Thank you very much, Ms. Nugent.
I will turn now to you, Mr. Gooch, and these thoughts around governance of port boards—and I think this is a really important aspect of the bill—and your earlier comments about labour representation on port boards. We've had some discussion about this and how to avoid the pitfalls of conflict of interest and how to ensure the workers, who allow the ports to operate, have some voice in the process.
I was noting that Willie Adams is the international president of the ILWU and is also the vice-president of the Port of San Francisco. I'm wondering whether some similar sort of representation could be possible in Canada; whether the United States has experienced challenges, in your view, because of the fact that obviously their system allows for that kind of representation, and how we deal with this challenge of ensuring representation, while avoiding conflicts of interest.
I would add that another question related to that is around how conflict of interest is currently managed by port authority boards. For instance, and this will show my lack of knowledge—
Okay, I'll finish my sentence, Mr. Chair.
When I look at the witness, I don't have to look at the clock. It will be perfect.