Well, what's the cost of doing nothing? What's the cost of being inefficient in the way we move the boats? What's the cost—monetary but also on the environment side—of anchorage? They're huge costs because of the huge loss of opportunities also, so again, this will allow ports to be way more efficient and trains to work in a more secure and efficient way also. Again, to avoid anchorage, avoid the impact on the environment, avoid the impact on whales—
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