Evidence of meeting #16 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was lauzon.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

—Mr. Lauzon put forward changes to the motion as put forward by Mr. Barsalou-Duval. In order to make it as simple as possible for members—

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Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

—he itemized them, and he mentioned the first part he was changing, the second part he was changing, the third part he was changing and the fourth part he was changing. What we're voting on is exactly what Mr. Lauzon spoke to in his remarks, which are all of those.

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Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

I have a point of order.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Yes, Mr. Groleau.

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Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Mr. Chair, thank you for giving me the floor.

I received the proposed amendments and they were all numbered and separated: amendment number 1, amendment number 2, amendment number 3, and so on.

As a member representing my region, I have no problem voting on each proposal, one at a time. However, we must have the right, for the people in our regions, to debate each motion before moving on to the next one.

I have here the proposals numbered 1 to 5. This means that I received five different motions. I can send them to you. That's how I received them.

I don't see how you can put them all in the same bundle when they're numbered. There's motion number 1, then motion number 2, then motion number 3, then motion number 4 and then motion number 5. These motions can't be together. I received them separately.

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

If you're going to be—

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Thank you, Mr. Groleau.

Mr. Albas, I'm just going to speak to Mr. Groleau's point of order to ensure that we're following the rules.

Mr. Groleau, Mr. Lauzon submitted and proposed changes. In order to provide as much clarity as possible, especially in the current environment, he presented his first proposed change, the second change, the third change and the fourth change. He presented all these changes together, and this is the result.

We'll be voting on all these motions together.

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Yes, Mr. Albas.

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

The fact is that you have not allowed me to speak to the motion. If we're going to be pulling all five separate amendments that were circulated by the clerk, lumping them without unanimous consent and not allowing us to speak, that is not okay.

According to my rights as a member, you should be giving us the chance to speak to it. I'd ask you to reconsider this and allow us to speak to it. This is unfair in both process and our rights as members of Parliament.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Thank you, Mr. Albas.

I appreciate that. I always want to ensure that you're given your rights as a member. I just want to reiterate for the record that—

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

I raised my hand.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

—the floor was given to you, sir. You were done with your remarks, and the vote was called.

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

It was a point of order.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

It was not on a point of order, and the video will clearly show that, sir.

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

It was, sir. What member of Parliament quotes the fourth edition of Procedure and Practice unless it is a point of order?

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Okay.

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

Come on. Let a man speak to the direct amendment.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Unfortunately, we're going to disagree on that Mr. Albas. I appreciate that.

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

I would like to have that opportunity, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Thank you. I appreciate that, Mr. Albas.

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

Good, then I'll start talking to it.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

No, Mr. Albas, I did not give you the floor.

Mr. Albas, you do not have the floor.

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

In essence, Mr. Chair—