Evidence of meeting #17 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was drivers.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Boucher  As an Individual
Poulin  Accounting Technician, As an Individual
Séguin  Entrepreneur, As an Individual
Palkowski  Director, Caledon Community Road Safety Advocacy Group
Pisani  Director, Caledon Community Road Safety Advocacy Group
Corbett  Director, Caledon Community Road Safety Advocacy Group
Aujla  Service Director, Labour Community Services of Peel, Justice for Truck Drivers
Campbell  President and Chief Executive Officer, Joy Smith Foundation

Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS

Absolutely. Do your colleagues next to you have anything to add to that before I move on to Ms. Campbell?

1:15 p.m.

Director, Caledon Community Road Safety Advocacy Group

Carmela Palkowski

Definitely, it's the collaboration. We're all hearing it. Most of it is coming from Ontario. It's causing havoc across this country, so we'd really like to see some more push to the Ontario government, because right now, they're not listening to anybody.

Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS

A push to the federal government—

1:15 p.m.

Director, Caledon Community Road Safety Advocacy Group

Carmela Palkowski

The provincial government.

Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS

—or the Ontario government, yes. I just want to be clear.

What about your colleague next to you? I just want to make sure we capture everything.

1:15 p.m.

Director, Caledon Community Road Safety Advocacy Group

Franca Pisani

As I said before, the statement that will never leave my mind is what these companies are telling their drivers to do: “It doesn't matter if you kill them because nothing's going to happen. A month or two in jail is the cost of doing business.” Something needs to be done there with the criminal aspect of it.

Of course, with the T5018s, the broker gives a T5018 to the carrier or the shipper, and the carrier or the shipper takes the T4As to the drivers. There's your cross-audit. That's what I would like to see.

Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS

Thank you very much.

Ms. Campbell.

1:20 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Joy Smith Foundation

Janet Campbell

I think, within these different administrative processes, there needs to be a clear understanding of what the indicators are so that the staff working with these types of files know that potentially this needs a criminal assessment. From there, if you create those pathways for the referral, I think that also goes a long way towards some of the collaboration that exists, because there's a lot of great data and insight, but it's not always connecting. Even if we take a look at some of the motor carrier enforcement and those types of things where they do these traffic stops, we don't have law enforcement present—OPP or RCMP. That would help.

Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS

Thank you very much.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

To all of our witnesses joining us online and in person here today, I want to thank you sincerely for your testimony. It will help us enormously as we put together this report that we will present to Transport Canada, the minister and, of course, our provincial and territorial counterparts.

Colleagues, there has been some discussion behind the scenes. There are two housekeeping items that I need to bring up. The first is prolonging this study, as we thought it was important to do. It comes with a supplementary budget.

Do I have unanimous consent to approve the supplementary budget to add the additional meetings?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Second, on December 11, the committee agreed to study Quebec's and Canada's ports. Based on the text of the motion, it looks like we'll be doing that towards the end of February.

The clerk has asked me to set a deadline for names of witnesses to be put forward.

Does next Wednesday, February 4, sound good to members?

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

Can we confirm this on Wednesday, Mr. Chair?

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

We can do that.

Okay, colleagues, thank you very much. I wish you a wonderful rest of your day.

This meeting is adjourned.