Evidence of meeting #3 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was federal.
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Liberal
Liberal
Stéphane Lauzon Liberal Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation, QC
Personally, Mr. Chair, I recommend starting with the first amendment, with all due respect to Mr. Barsalou‑Duval. If we keep an eye on the time, we should be able to gauge whether we'll have time to deal with his subamendment a bit later. That's why I recommend that we go in order, starting with the first amendment. I'm not dismissing Mr. Barsalou‑Duval's request, but I think we'll be able to consider his motion later, before midnight.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
Mr. Barsalou‑Duval, can you keep track of the time and let us know if we haven't dealt with your subamendment by the time we get to the last 15 minutes?
We have to have faith in our fellow members.
Liberal
Stéphane Lauzon Liberal Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation, QC
I have faith in Mr. Barsalou‑Duval's ability to keep track of the time.
Bloc
Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc Pierre-Boucher—Les Patriotes—Verchères, QC
I'm fine with that if the member can assure me that there won't be any lengthy debates and that 15 minutes will be enough time for me to move my subamendment and for the committee to vote.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
Mr. Barsalou‑Duval, you need the unanimous consent of the committee to move your subamendment now.
Do I have consent for Mr. Barsalou‑Duval to move his subamendment immediately?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
It doesn't look like we have unanimous consent. I guess we'll have to do it when the time comes.
Colleagues, we'll start with NDP-1. As a note, NDP-1 is deemed moved pursuant to the order adopted by the House on Monday, June 16. This applies to all NDP amendments. There will be no movers. They're just deemed moved.
Shall NDP-1 carry?
Go ahead, Mr. Kelloway.
Liberal
Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS
I'll be quick. We oppose it. I'll give a very quick rationale because it's late at night.
The preamble language refers to the efforts through the Canadian Free Trade Agreement. Since indigenous governing bodies are not signatories to the free trade agreement, are not regulators and do not place any barriers to provincial trade, we believe this amendment isn't applicable to the act. Therefore, we're going to oppose this amendment.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
Liberal
Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS
From our perspective, the amendment is outside of the scope of the act, so we'll be opposed.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS
While I agree with the intent of the amendment, again, on this side we have some serious concerns. The subsection paraphrases sections of the UNDA. It creates uncertainty by creating some inconsistent provisions. Furthermore, there is no need to add this subsection because it is already implemented under UNDRIP and covered under the interpretation of the act. Therefore, we are opposing this amendment.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS
I think given that NDP‑1 was defeated, this amendment is not necessary. We oppose.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
Shall NDP-4 carry?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
I have a quick note to the legislative clerks as well as to the clerk. If you need any of us to slow down to be able to count the votes properly, etc., please do let me know.
We are now discussing NDP‑5.
Mr. Kelloway, please go ahead.
Liberal
Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS
Good. Given the last amendments that have been defeated, we believe that there's no justification for the amendment. We oppose it for the same reasons we opposed the last amendment.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS
We oppose the amendment based on the rationale for the last amendment.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke
I'm just going to ask Liberal colleagues to raise your hand if you are opposed because we do have abstentions, so I want to make sure that the vote is being carried out properly.
On NDP-7, are there questions, comments or concerns?
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Would anyone like to speak to NDP‑8?
Liberal
Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS
We oppose this amendment. It says that exceptions because of health and safety would be made through the regulations process. The federal regulators have the experience to determine the instances where this may be the case. This is not needed, and therefore we oppose this amendment.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
We oppose this amendment because we've voted against all other related amendments and because indigenous governing bodies have no regulatory role when it comes to interprovincial trade.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS
Very briefly, we oppose this because the act has safeguards built into it, therefore it doesn't add a lot to the legislation.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])