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Evidence of meeting #4 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Mr. Kelloway, you had your hand up first. Do you want to cede the floor to Mr. Albas?

Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS

I had it up first, so I was planning to go first.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

I had the floor here, so it's....

Mr. Chair, I think you have to rule on this.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Mr. Albas, I'm not trying to play games. He was first on the left. You were on the right. Both of you had your hands up. From my interpretation—

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

Mr. Chair, he had his hand up before it began. Mine was clearly up when you began the meeting. He actually pulled his hand down. I have been patient here. It was the Conservatives who asked for this hearing, along with the Bloc. I think it's incumbent upon the committee to start with those who requested the meeting and then allow the committee to decide its business.

If you'd like, I'll start: That pursuant to Standing Order 108—

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Mr. Kelloway, you have your hand up. Go ahead.

Mike Kelloway Liberal Sydney—Glace Bay, NS

With respect to Mr. Albas and everyone here, I didn't put my hand down. I don't know if there's a timeout function on this particular piece of software or if there's a glitch in the system, but I did not put my hand down. I didn't touch the computer, so it wasn't performed by me. I can say only that I didn't touch a bloody thing. My hand was up first—

Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

I have a point of order.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

I asked the clerk to give me a list of who had their hands up. He looked at me and said, “Mr. Kelloway has his hand up.” I said, “I know.” Then he said, “Mr. Albas has his hand up.” I said, “I know.” He started a list, which is why, when it switched over, I asked, “Well, how did this switch over?” He said, “I don't know”, but he has the list.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

Mr. Chair, I did start my—

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

I have a point of order.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

I took this out of my own.... I'm going to recognize Mr. Kelloway because the clerk is the one who took—

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Leslyn Lewis Conservative Haldimand—Norfolk, ON

I have a point of order.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

I have a point of order.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

I'll turn it over to you for a point of order, but I'm going to recognize Mr. Kelloway because it was the clerk who took the list of those who were speaking.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

Before you decide that, I would appreciate it if you heard interventions from Dr. Lewis and me.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

I will allow Mr. Kelloway to speak, and then I will turn it over to you.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Clarke, ON

I would challenge the chair.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

You can do that.

I want you to know, colleagues, with everything going on, that I basically asked the clerk to be the one to take note of who was the first to have their hand up—

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

Mr. Chair, there's no debate.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

—in case I was reading my notes.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

There's no debate on this motion.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

I just want you to know that the clerk did that. I'm putting it out there for everyone.

A challenge of the chair is something that cannot be debated.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Okanagan Lake West—South Kelowna, BC

I'd like a recorded vote.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

We'll go to a recorded vote.

(Ruling of the chair overturned: nays 5; yeas 4)

Mr. Albas, I've switched the order. It's now you first, then Mr. Kelloway and then Mr. Lawrence, if he still wants to speak.