Yes, none of it comes from the government. They're very proud of the fact that they're independent of any government financing, and sometimes this leads to some pretty healthy debate at the meetings. I'll be going to one in two weeks' time.
What really happened was that there were some organizations that were very strong, but they depended on having to meet every two years or whatever. We found that people such as the Canadian fighter pilots said, “Go to hell”; they just said, “We'll do it ourselves.” Over a period of 20 years they began developing ways and means of fundraising.
For example, one of them has, believe it or not—and this is an indication—a motorcycle bike ride that goes into Sunnybrook Hospital, which raises $30,000 every year. They've found ways and means. The War Amps never get a nickel from the government.