I'll give it to you quickly. It could be triggered within the system by a veterans bureau or veterans organization or something. It could also be triggered outside of the system. We do have in the Pension Act a proposal that a veteran can use his own lawyer, and some of that happens. He could even take his own case, and they don't frown upon that; they say okay, fine. But I got the feeling that they don't spend a lot of time on them, because they know they're frivolous, and they simply cut it right off.
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