Madam, all of us on the committee are like dogs running after their tails right now. We’re going around in circles.
Ask the clerk to get out all the committees’ blues. Do you read the committees’ blues? If you read the committee’s blues, you will notice that, in 80 per cent of cases, there is no mention of an ombudsman.
Read the blues our clerk makes available for you. You will see that, in 80 per cent to 85 per cent of cases, we are not talking about the ombudsman with the witnesses who appear before us, except today, when we talked about an ombudsman 100 per cent of the time.
I found this interesting. It should give us an idea of what an ombudsman should be. As far as the others are concerned, if we ask them whether the term of the mandate should be five, three or two years, they answer that they don’t know. If we suggested that it be six years, they could tell us it's too long or not long enough.