Especially not lawyers.
In the document you gave us, the Ombudsman Act, on page five I understand point 4 pretty clearly—“May consult minister”. If you need to talk to a minister, we can understand that.
It's the fifth one, “Must consult minister”. I read it several times to be clear on it. I wouldn't ask you, in your own position today, because you work for the Ontario government and work for the people of Ontario, but I'd like to know, with all your experience and how much you have heard in all your experience with the ombudsmen you know across Canada and the experience you have with your international group, how much interference can come from a clause like that. Have you ever heard of it?
Again, we're not asking you to talk about your current job for Ontario, but in your years of experience with DND before, and with the international experience, does or could this clause bring about political interference?