Thank you, gentlemen, for coming today and being willing to give testimony to help us with our report to the minister for an ombudsman.
Regarding the new charter, you mentioned there was not the time nor the resources to really have a complete dialogue and consultation for the input of the veterans organizations. Regarding our investigation now on the ombudsman, you mentioned you've been communicating with the bureaucrats in VAC and that you feel it has been bogged down in the bureaucracy. Have you been aware that we've been holding these meetings and consultations over the last few months?