What he said is that you discussed this during this meeting. Let us forget about this.
Let us try to find out how much time it would take to create an ombudsman position.
Back in 1968, during Expo '67, the premier of the Quebec nation met the New Zealand ombudsman. The Quebec nation ombudsman, called the protecteur du citoyen, existed then and was operational.
My question to all those around this table is this: How come it is so long to find a suitable model, when we have so many good ones in this country? Ontario did not follow exactly the Quebec model, but it changed it, and New Brunswick and Alberta did the same thing.
We have in this country ombudsman offices that work fine. We have the expertise. I challenge all those around this table to work hard together to create a veterans' ombudsman. But we will have to stop hesitating and find the will to create it.
We should try to stop scrutinizing documents and discuss endlessly like we have been doing since 1962, when the suggestion to have a general ombudsman was first discussed. Do we really want to create this position or is this just political idle talk? You should respond and we should get on with it and establish this position rapidly.
Thank you, that is all I had to say, Mr. Chair.