I understand. It reminds me of Thomas Jefferson, his head and his heart and the debates he would have. That's very good.
We don't have the NDP with us this morning, so next I'll move on to Mrs. Hinton. Before I do, though, I just want to make a quick mention of something. I believe earlier--and I was a little surprised, because I think it's one of the first times I've ever seen this--I saw a recording device that was placed on the table.