Thank you for all those questions. I can't begin to remember what the ones in the middle were.
Your first question was on consultation on the new Veterans Charter. I can answer that one. There was tremendous consultation with the veterans organizations. This has been going on for six years. It started in July 2000. There was consultation with the veterans organizations, with the military, with families; it was ongoing. I spent so much time in Ottawa the last couple of years that my family thought I lived here, and most of that included consultations and visiting.
In all those consultations, was the issue of an ombudsman or the bill of rights ever raised? Yes, indeed. There was discussion on absolutely everything that could come up around it. As to the exact content of those discussions, in the number of meetings we have had over the past years, I do not remember exclusively.
I do know, and I repeat what I said earlier, that one of our problems with an ombudsman has always been that everybody has a different concept of it, and one of us doesn't necessarily know what the other person's concept is when we're discussing it. One person is saying, absolutely not, under any circumstances; and the other one is saying we definitely need one with lots of teeth.