To clarify my comments, certainly I do think they're all doing good work, and when institutions work well, not only in and of themselves but inter-institutionally, then it creates a synergy for better communications. That's our concern here at the committee, that we get more communication.
Finally, so I can get a handle on your experience, I want to know if either of you have had involvement with the Canadian Forces ombudsman, and if you have, could you give us an idea about your involvement? Obviously, you'd be happy about that because....