Thank you, Ms. Gutman, for coming. It's actually been very interesting.
You made a comment earlier about individuals who often are institutionalized, whether that's into hospital or the homes where they actually rely totally on other services, and lose their independence not necessarily because they want to, but it just happens. I think because of that, clearly, we've tried to and want to put things in place for independence, hence the VIP.
One of the things you talk about, and we have had a big issue with, obviously, is getting professionals. We've tried to do a lot in our budget, and in fact we've increased post-secondary education by 40% to try to entice people to get further education past secondary school. In saying that, when we look for professional services and home care services, quite honestly there is another element to it, that likely those services are rather non-professional but essential. I wonder if I could get your thoughts on it, because we hear a lot about what the government needs to do. Could I get some thoughts about what we can do to have people help people?
There are organizations—and I was at one last night, actually, called NeighbourLink—where there is an outreach to community by the young and the old to help people. I'm wondering if you have suggestions or thoughts on how we could expand those types of services, rather than always just forking government dollars out to hire people, when we actually have a growing demographic of aged people who are retired but healthy, who actually want to be doing something.