Thank you once again.
I want to return to the theme I started. I'm not much of a one for too many silos, believe me, or these jurisdictional debates. I sometimes think that even we make comments here saying, listen, we only want to ask questions that have a direct impact on our mandate. We run the risk, too, of running some interference in terms of what services are provided to various individuals.
I think about the most extreme case, where a life does get lost over jurisdictional disputes. We passed a motion in the House of Commons, called Jordan's principle, over a very similar situation, where you had a provincial and federal government or a first nations government arguing over who the hell was going to pay for care, and somebody's life got lost because of it.
But I want to come back to transition. We have somebody active in the service, and they can go to you. They leave; I don't know where they go. They become a veteran, or at some point they may access VA. What happens to them? They're with CF, and they have a counsellor or maybe a physician at CF. If they're out, I would say that the CF is not paying, or they may not pay, particularly if it's a CF physician or psychologist. So they have nobody in that interim period, and they may or may not know what the hell is out there under VA. What happens in that transition?
Colleen, you were in for 21 years.
I'm not sure about you, Wendy. Were you a civilian?