That's understood? All right.
With regard to the lump sum versus the annuity or the return of the pension, to an extent it depends on who is asking, because some people want the lump sum paid out as an annuity, which is a possibility if it's invested properly, but you've got to be careful when you're investing these days, as we all know.
Whether we would return to paying out pensions, which by their very nature grow if you can demonstrate a greater illness, apart from a policy point of view, that can and does, I think, run counter to the wellness approach. So I'm not optimistic that there is going to be revision back to the old pension days, but I am quite convinced that there is a ministerial commitment that improvements in the charter are going to be considered as soon as possible.
Mr. Chair, Mr. Stoffer asked about the children of veterans who were receiving psychiatric help, and the veterans recovered and the children didn't. We'd have to look at those cases. I think we have the authority to continue to help those children, so maybe I could get names at the break. We'll have a look at that.
With regard to asbestosis on ships, we're aware of that concern and we're looking into it. I can't give a progress update now, but I can submit one if you wish.
With regard to hearing loss, we certainly are trying to revise our policy in line with the Federal Court of Appeal decision. We are looking back to provide disability benefit decisions in line with the court decision. That policy should be released quite soon.