As I mentioned earlier, I think we're making progress in terms of the stigma associated with post-traumatic stress disorder, and that's reflected in the number of clients we have. In terms of depression, I'm not so sure, and that's reflective generally of Canadian society. There is still significant stigma around the whole notion that depression is a clinical condition that requires the same kind of assistance as any other kind of medical condition. The attitude still continues to be a “get over it” type of approach.
There's probably some movement, but it's not as significant in terms of the veteran community as it has been with post-traumatic stress disorder.