That's right. The discussion paper that was referred to previously was a discussion paper that was put together by the department. As I indicated in my testimony, there were numerous discussions with the ombudsman. I shouldn't say the ombudsman himself; I think it's very clear to be on the record that many of the discussions that take place between the ombudsman's office and the staff in the department are at an officials level. They are not all at the level of the ombudsman, or the directors general, or the assistant deputy ministers.
There has not been a document for us to react to.