Absolutely, and governments have an obligation to do what's right for pensioners, and all governments try to do that within their bounds. We brought in a host of measures that have been to the benefit of the veterans. We're always trying to find more. It's like seniors; you're always trying to find more ways to make life better. I mean, I have a whole list of them, but it involves billions of dollars and many different programs.
The fact is that most CF and RCMP pensioners don't get less at 65. They only show me their CFSA slip; they don't show me their CPP slip. And when I challenge them, in most cases when you put it together, they're getting about the same or more. But they're fixated on the CFSA part of it and they're just ignoring the CPP part of it. Well, they can't because that's how the plan was designed in the first place: a continuous, steady stream of income from the time they retire from the Canadian Forces, past CPP, and on into the future. And it's indexed all day long.