Madam Sgro, thank you very much for that.
Since Bill C-201 resurfaced—it was Bill C-411 a few years ago—there is no question that information now to leaving members or to members who are signing up is much more available, open, and transparent than it was before. There is no question it was always in a manual somewhere, in this big binder you sign in. Anybody who has ever signed up for the military knows there's one form after another and you're just signing away.
But the reality is that the explanation of what it was...it was never fully explained until many years later. Now I have to give the CF credit; they are fully explaining, very clearly, and I think it's because of the public awareness of this particular legislation putting forward. So it has improved greatly in that regard and people know exactly what to anticipate. They don't like it, mind you, but they do anticipate it.
How do we go forward? Quite simply, if Bill C-201 ever became law, if I ever reached that sort of luxurious moment in my life, the reality is it would stop immediately. Then the individual members would receive both, and they would obviously have to pay more taxes, receive less OAS, and put that money right back into the economy. It's another way that we say to all of them “Thank you very much”.
As a New Democrat, I will give the Conservative parliamentary secretary credit, because right now Mr. Ted Menzies has gone across the country looking at pension reform. But one thing they haven't looked at yet is this reform, and if Mr. Menzies wished at any time to discuss with the various military and RCMP this particular aspect of pension reform in Bill C-201, I would work with him.