Thank you, and I appreciate your patience, Mr. Chairman.
It's the term “Think outside the box”, because when they started CFAC, the then deputy minister, Admiral Larry Murray, cracked the whip over in the Department of Veterans Affairs and got them thinking on behalf of the veterans instead of the bureaucracy. And that permeates all the way through CFAC and his successor, Jack Stagg, may he rest in peace, and of course Suzanne Tining.
But the point has been made by Brian Ferguson and Darragh Mogan. They have to do it. They prefer to do it. Yes, it may be necessary to go to a legislative change, and that's when you folks get involved, even more so. But to do it within the existing regulations—and if possible if there's an issue or a problem to be solved, think outside the box. How can we make it work within the current authority? I don't work for VAC, but I hear them and I believe them, having seen that they're trying to make it work within the regulatory licence. As you know better than we, there are obviously financial concerns in all government departments, including Veterans Affairs. They're doing what they can within the regulations.