May I make a suggestion that we have an extended working lunch. We'll include the president of the veterans association first, as Mr. Stoffer suggested. Then we will invite the union representative at the end of our lunch. We'll extend it by maybe 20 minutes. Most of the things we're investing in are 20 minutes at a time, so that should work out.
I've been on this trip before. You'll want to get out of Montreal as early as possible to beat the rush, so that will extend our visit to around 2:30 p.m. Is everybody all right with that, provided we get hold of these folks to make sure they're going to be available?