As well, Mr. Chairman, I had the privilege of hearing these gentlemen, along with others, at the health committee a couple of weeks back, and I highly recommend that we get that testimony from the committee Hansard for all of us. It was really quite moving. It was pretty good.
Gentlemen, I have a couple of things. Just to simplify it, is it still the status quo that the RCMP in general do not wish to be part of the new veterans charter and keep their own separate identity in that particular regard? Am I correct in saying that?