Okay.
Shall the ruling of the chair be sustained?
(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 6; nays 5)
Thank you very much.
As I said to our witnesses earlier, we'll be constructive. We'll try to keep the committee in charge.
I'll introduce the witnesses as we get to them, if you don't mind.
From the Public Service Commission of Canada, we have Anne-Marie Robinson, president; and Hélène Laurendeau, senior vice-president, policy branch.
Please begin. Thank you.