I don't have an end state figure for you. But you used the term “layoff”, and I should just point out for you that over the five years going forward, while we know that we're going to have to reduce the size of our organization by about 800 people, we are planning and focusing on trying to make sure that wherever we possibly can—and it won't work everywhere—we're meeting these numbers through attrition.
I should just tell you, for the benefit of the committee.... It's not a perfect lineup, but we have about 1,062 employees in the same period who will be eligible to retire. When you take note of that number, plus numbers of terms and casuals or people who just come and go from the department normally, we think we are going to be able to manage that reduction.