DND started to set up what they call the Operational Trauma and Stress Support Centres in the 1990s, before Veterans Affairs started our OSI clinics. What we offer are similar services. In most of the areas, there's either an OSI clinic or an OTSSC. Four major cities—Quebec City, Ottawa, Edmonton, and Fredericton—have both clinics. In those places, prior to the transition to civilian life, the members will be referred to the OSI clinic to have better continuity through a transition to Veterans Affairs services.
In other areas, such as in Halifax, veterans have access to the OTSSC operated by DND, and we provide access to CF members. For example, in Winnipeg, a lot of our clients at the OSI clinics are CF members. It's a collaboration. That's why we're saying that we have seven specialized facilities between VAC and DND that are offering these services.