No, I think that's probably a good time to go into recess. We're doing reasonably well here, I think, and it's been a long day. I appreciate it.
I'd like to thank our witnesses very much for taking the time. You could follow up on these other conversations afterwards.
I'd like to thank the veterans and the guests and family who've joined us today to participate.
We're going to break now for a minute. We have to go into committee business, which means anybody who's not part of the committee, we'd ask that they please move on with our thanks.
Thank you very much.
[Proceedings continue in camera]