All the three points you've raised there are points that are internal to DND. They were looking at how to reach the troops, the families, and meet their requirements, and so on.
So DND in itself is a very paternalistic outfit, we know that. That's how we build our loyalty and our capacity. It has been looking at that, it has established the skill of taking care of their troops, which is much higher than the one at VAC. And you'll notice that many of the troops don't want to move to VAC. That's because of the benefits, but also because they're still within the family.
So the question is, can you make VAC as responsive as DND even though, starting in 1997-98, we created the committee at the ADM level, and in fact they still meet? I can go as far as to say, you've got to maybe wonder whether or not we need two departments.