They were. I would say less so with respect to the ill and injured. When we did the work at the Veterans Transition Advisory Council, we recognized that that could be the case in many situations. If you look at somebody who's releasing, who has been in the military for quite a while, you see that their post-military career income drops. You think, oh no, but quickly realize, well—
On March 26th, 2015. See this statement in context.