Yes, that is still the case, unfortunately.
We have done a lot of awareness-raising over the past few years with civilian employers and even public institutions. You would be very surprised to know how few people, even within provincial political institutions and the public administration, are aware of the reality of veterans and recognize the skills they have acquired.
I would add that things have changed, but we have to continue to increase people's awareness. We have to let people know that these military members and veterans have skills and that they can be very useful in enterprises. It has taken our resource centre 18 years to meet that objective. Of course we are in Quebec, and the challenge was a big one. It is possible to meet it, but it takes a collective awareness-raising effort. The stigma still exists.