We're certainly hearing from spouses and family members that they too have a need for peer support. It's being able to chat with another spouse at three o'clock in the morning because they finally got their partner back into bed, calmed down, asleep and resting. Now they're wired and so they need somebody to talk to as well. Having peer support for the spouses or the parents who are managing the situation on a day-to-day basis has been seen to be really important.
As Phil mentioned, to connect that back to the data building, the knowledge sharing, is critically important. We talk a lot about evidence-based programs. We also had evidence-inspired and evidence-informed. A lot of that happens among families. It's not just evidence-based experience, but it's experience-based evidence. When listening to those families, it doesn't take much to get them talking. It does take much to trust them to talk a second time if you don't listen to them in the first round.
How do you support those veterans? You start talking to them from the day they enter the military, and you continue that all the way through and try not to pass the buck. It doesn't work.