We would agree to a certain extent, in the sense that PTSD and depression impact people generally the same way in the brain. You probably heard this from your researchers. There's a 5% issue for veterans, and there's a 5% issue for first responders, but that 5% is very important. Early diagnosis, getting involved with the community at the very early stages of mental illness, and understanding it are not unique to veterans. It's a unique issue for all Canadians, and particularly for primary caregivers and primary care spectrums.
Coming from Hamilton, of course, you've got the leaders of the shared care model out of McMaster, who we've had the privilege to work with. In collaborative care, we were the patient leadership in that whole movement.
Early intervention is by far the best thing, but, in order to do that, people have to understand what it is they're looking for. Far too often patients, veterans, and others show up in doctors' offices, in nurses' offices, and in rural, remote, and indigenous communities expressing some issue. The health care provider does not immediately say, “Oh, given your background”—because they don't take enough background—“we'd better have a look at this and see”. It's really up to the health care provider at that stage to start the ball rolling.