One of the things you do is you get patients, in our case veterans, involved in the discussion and educate the researchers as to who they're dealing with, who they're working for, and who needs that information. In the vast majority of cases, it's the health care provider.
We work with the Royal Ottawa and the Mental Health Commission, which were your witnesses on Monday, and both are excellent organizations. The Royal Ottawa is part of the Canadian Depression Research and Intervention Network that I talked about. It's about getting them to understand that there are people out there who can help them translate that information, but they have to be motivated to make the link.
In research, one key issue is that researchers far too often stop their work when they publish. It's the way they work. I've worked with post-docs and I've worked with all sorts of people who say, “If you want me to help you translate the information beyond my publication, you'll have to pay me.” I don't have the money to pay them, and I have to twist their arm to volunteer to help me work.
One of the ways we did it was that we developed a PTSD CME. It was an outcome of the Out of Sight, Not out of Mind project. Collaborating with the Canadian Medical Association, Veterans Affairs, and others, we developed a continuing medical education resource of $200,000 which came out of the 2012 budget. This is still valuable today. Unfortunately, it's a CME and we haven't been able to get the money to move it out. Nevertheless, it's there and it has been very valuable. It has great research. We have some information here if you—