Yes, that's a great question.
We've done so many things over the last 15 years, or close to 20 years now, to dismantle and ask which one is the one who has done it.... But our stigma rates are down. When you ask a battle group coming back from theatre if they would think less of someone else who had a mental health issue, it's about 7%. If you asked that for a bank or other corporation, it would be four or five times that, so we've seen a reduction in that.
We've seen an increase in help-seeking. Canadian Forces members sought help more in 2002 than average Canadians. The gap has widened in our last study, so we're seeing things moving in the right direction with higher utilization of our services, more people coming forward. You're never done, it's a journey, but whether that's because of the R2MR or because of leaders who have stood by and said, this is the way we're going to be, it's going to be very hard to tease out what's.... We have more mental health professionals than ever as well, so access has also increased, which is again one of the barriers to care.