Just by way of comment, I think I share your concern. You can create all of the programs that you want. It's the effectiveness and the efficiency of those programs that become important. In terms of measures on the uptake on some of those programs with respect, for example, to education and training, I could throw a billion dollars at it. If none of our veterans are participating in a training or education benefit, then it becomes a concern to me as a parliamentarian that we're not being very effective.
On May 1st, 2017. See this statement in context.