Yes, there is. What Gary was alluding to is that not only do we personally keep in touch, but also there is a relationship between my deputy and his deputy. Almost on a weekly basis, people are talking about different reviews that we're doing, helping each other, and that sort of thing. There's a consultation going on continually.
Also, very often we have to transfer files over to the military ombudsman. For instance, in PTSD cases, where information is required from the DND side, we would do a hot transfer to the DND ombudsman. This means we would speak on behalf of the client, so they don't have to repeat their story. There is a relationship in that respect.