For sure. Without question, bureaucracy is a very powerful creature in governments, including my government. At the end of the day, when you look at it, it's emphasized sometimes that you have to convince them a lot more than you have to convince a minister.
It becomes challenging when not enough education is obtained inside their departments. They don't take the time to really understand why this matter is before them or before both the minister and opposition side, like me. They don't understand why we're bringing forward an argument or a position. They seem to find a defence for why it shouldn't happen instead of why it should happen. I think we find that in many bureaucracies.
The challenge, I think, is still.... I think we've slowly passed that now, but it's taken that time frame, since the Chrétien time. If you look at that time frame, the wheel is slowly turning, and they are beginning to understand that there is unfinished business with the Métis.