I never referred any.... Yes, one, maybe once. It was a really long time ago, and it was somebody who was still serving. They were very scared to talk because the people within the CAF—like the bosses at higher ranks than they were—were actually trying to know what was being said. Basically, that was the message that we got back.
In terms of peer support, we've never used.... You have to understand that at Caregivers' Brigade, we're not really in touch with people. We're just sending out information.