Yes. Those individuals, whether they're parents, spouses or kids, who've lost a loved one due to their military service—whether it's directly due to their military service, to a condition that developed such that they pass or to suicide—are probably some of the most affected individuals and some of the most ignored individuals, when it comes to looking after them.
If a veteran passes and has not given their spouse access to their VAC file, for example, or if a parent passes and hasn't given their child access to their VAC account, it can be a huge task just to figure out what benefits they might be entitled to. That's strictly on the benefits side.
When it comes to the whole business of getting care, I believe most of the veterans community is very dependent on the veterans organizations that exist, as opposed to VAC. I know Mr. Gauthier could speak to that, from his work with the Van Doos. There are so many groups that have been set up to basically fill the gap between what the partner, spouse, child or parent is experiencing and their dealings with VAC.