What I'd also like to get at from you, because you've been at this for some time, is that right now there really is no mechanism within either DND or VAC to do this. DND is saying that this is actually commemorations, which means it's under Veterans Affairs. I know that's why you've had many meetings with the minister. I do understand that there may be a process under way where those definitions are being looked at and what that would look like.
You described very well how, for you, when you went, you were going to war, in your mind. This goes beyond the benefits. It's easy to talk about benefits. I know there are certain parallels in benefits that DND has put in there. What this is really about, though, and what I'm getting from some of the veterans I've spoken to, is the acknowledgement. It's in your heart. It's so that you can stand up and.... You mentioned your grandchildren. I have often said that it matters to you, so it matters to us.
I wonder if you could talk a little about what this would mean to you, beyond all of the benefits and the details, if you were recognized as war veterans.