We don't believe that National Defence has any policies in existence.
We have been unsuccessful in finding out if they have a policy. Normally, governments place their policies out for public consumption, with fullness and transparency. It's a QR&O, Queen's Regulations and Orders. It's a Library of Parliament document. It's out there for everybody to see.
The committee is sitting here today and trying to get to the root of some problems. If there were policy documents that existed and were in place, then we wouldn't need to have a meeting—