Thank you. That helps.
I'd like to turn to Veterans Affairs. It's probably you, Ms. Meunier. I think you're the head of the commemoration section.
We know from the last meeting we had that the Minister of National Defence had not met with the Persian Gulf veterans association, although we understand he has now reached out to them. Interestingly enough, it was after being called out for not meeting with them. This is good, but it's sad that it took that for it to happen. I know your minister met with the Persian Gulf association.
Can you tell me how many times either you, as head of the commemoration section, or other senior members of Veterans Affairs have met with Persian Gulf Veterans?