Thank you for that. That's really helpful.
You talked about their reintegrating back into society and some of them experiencing discrimination in a more poignant way, let's say. What I find interesting about that is that we've heard, especially from indigenous veterans, that when they are accessing services from VAC, sometimes there are people who are not trained well who react to them with some very racist comments about things that are just completely inappropriate.
On the broad idea that Canada can sometimes not be as friendly to people from these communities, do you ever hear anything specifically about services they're trying to access where they experience discrimination based on their indigenous status or their Black status?