Thank you for that.
I'm going to combine two questions in one and have you answer, Debbie, and then Alan after.
The first part is that you talked a lot about the spiritual supports that are needed and, of course, that they must come from an elder. I'm just wondering if there is any capacity for VAC to pay honorariums to these amazing elders who are helping with the healing. Are they even acknowledged in that role?
The second part is that you talked about the distrust of government agencies, which I believe has a special nuance for indigenous people that the rest of the population may not have. When we talk about culturally appropriate training so people from VAC can address that, do you think that's something that would help them deliver better services to indigenous veterans?